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Post by Siraraz on 12/12/11, 12:43 pm

Grapple Hook is hard to use when your radius level is high. You end up hitting something behind you, or something you don't want to. So I was thinking of adding a radius cap, of say 250? 250 provides enough radius to grapple onto the desired structure and higher isn't exactly a benefit if you can't grapple onto what you want.

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Re: Grapple Hook Radius Cap?

Post by Mr_Bean on 12/12/11, 12:52 pm

Sounds good. What is the current maximum radius?

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Re: Grapple Hook Radius Cap?

Post by Siraraz on 12/12/11, 12:55 pm

Maximum radius currently is 475. I haven't put much thought into the specific number, 250 is because I thought it'd be decent enough to not miss it's target but still be large enough.
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Re: Grapple Hook Radius Cap?

Post by Mr_Bean on 12/12/11, 12:59 pm

Wow, 475 is quite big! I rate 250 would be fine. Perhaps the increment per upgrade should be reduced?

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Re: Grapple Hook Radius Cap?

Post by Mr_LiSa on 12/12/11, 08:40 pm

dont know like you i think what the need little cut point on radius(for hook,grap),
I think that instead of 15 for a 1 increase, it is needed to do 7 somewhere so
I think all will agree that it is possible simply unreal maxing hook at begining and to pull all ...

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Re: Grapple Hook Radius Cap?

Post by Siraraz on 13/12/11, 04:20 am

Mr_LiSa wrote:dont know like you i think what the need little cut point on radius(for hook,grap),
I think that instead of 15 for a 1 increase, it is needed to do 7 somewhere so

Question It is difficult to understand what you say. So instead of +15 RADIUS/level it is +7 RADIUS/level?

I think all will agree that it is possible simply unreal maxing hook at begining and to pull all ...

What you mean?
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Re: Grapple Hook Radius Cap?

Post by Mr_LiSa on 13/12/11, 06:30 am

at upgrade pionts, can up radius at 15 pionts(now)
I think that now radius at pw - big imba ....
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Post by Mr_Bean on 13/12/11, 08:11 am

He's saying +15 radius per level is too much; it's "big imba".

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Re: Grapple Hook Radius Cap?

Post by Daeman on 30/12/11, 06:05 am

Yeeeeah. I always don't like this when you with a big hook radius can't get to the opposite bank of the river! It's enrage me! It would be good fix.
Also I have one suggestion about Grappling Hook. Increase distance of ulti blink. It should be enough to teleport to the opposite bank of the river (from the brink of the one bank to the brink of the opposite bank). Why? Because there is no reason to level up hook more than twice.

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Re: Grapple Hook Radius Cap?

Post by Mr_Bean on 30/12/11, 07:26 am

What is the current range of blink?

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Re: Grapple Hook Radius Cap?

Post by Daeman on 30/12/11, 12:17 pm

Radius? I think now it's about 300. This is enough only for blink in a river from brink of the bank. So range should be 650 or 700 or about that.

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Post by Mr_Bean on 30/12/11, 12:26 pm

Hmmm, 300 is quite small. Perhaps 500 or 600 because the map is also quite small.

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Re: Grapple Hook Radius Cap?

Post by neseri on 21/01/12, 05:37 am

well for this i have something in mind that will completely change the use of the grappling hook

first of all the radius for this one is to be capped at a smaller size, too big is not good.

second, i suggest to tweak the grapple hook, as so:
should be buyable only once, after that it can be upgraded with points earned from killing and levelup, like having 2 extra stat spells, 1 for decreasing the cooldown , until reached the minimum (2 seconds)(5 levels=total cost of 15 points),
and the second stat, for the radius (max 220)(each level 20 radius increase, for total cost of 28 points, 7 levels)
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Re: Grapple Hook Radius Cap?

Post by Mr_LiSa on 21/01/12, 08:13 pm

neseri wrote:well for this i have something in mind that will completely change the use of the grappling hook

first of all the radius for this one is to be capped at a smaller size, too big is not good.

second, i suggest to tweak the grapple hook, as so:
should be buyable only once, after that it can be upgraded with points earned from killing and levelup, like having 2 extra stat spells, 1 for decreasing the cooldown , until reached the minimum (2 seconds)(5 levels=total cost of 15 points),
and the second stat, for the radius (max 220)(each level 20 radius increase, for total cost of 28 points, 7 levels)
What is a point of making so many changes to the item which is used 10 times less than the hook and isn't always needed as the basic item?

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Re: Grapple Hook Radius Cap?

Post by neseri on 21/01/12, 08:49 pm

Mr_LiSa wrote:
neseri wrote:well for this i have something in mind that will completely change the use of the grappling hook

first of all the radius for this one is to be capped at a smaller size, too big is not good.

second, i suggest to tweak the grapple hook, as so:
should be buyable only once, after that it can be upgraded with points earned from killing and levelup, like having 2 extra stat spells, 1 for decreasing the cooldown , until reached the minimum (2 seconds)(5 levels=total cost of 15 points),
and the second stat, for the radius (max 220)(each level 20 radius increase, for total cost of 28 points, 7 levels)
What is a point of making so many changes to the item which is used 10 times less than the hook and isn't always needed as the basic item?

exactly.
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Re: Grapple Hook Radius Cap?

Post by Phoboa30 on 20/03/12, 06:49 am

By Siraraz
Thoughts?
I end up hitting another thing like mines, walls and others when i am close to them

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